EaglePrince

Thanks, Vetka! Thanks for your suggestion. That is why I created this tread. I hope that people will notice it, and that they will be aware of the fact that they can play all Stronghold Europe maps in Crusader, but that they are also able to play Crusader maps in Stronghold Europe.

This tread I created to let you know about one possible problem you might notice pretty late - after finishing the map... We all know that those three sorts of palm trees are growing in oasis, and olive trees grow on dry land, in Crusader, but you might miss this one. In Europe trees don't act like in Stronghold 1 - they act like in Crusader, which is logical, as it is a Crusader mod. Chestnut trees are replacement for olive trees in Stronghold Europe, so they don't grow in grass lands - they would grow only on dry land. All other three sorts of thees in Stronghold Europe act the same way as palm trees in Crusader - they don't grow on dry land, but they do grow on grass land. Right now we haven't had any problems with that on maps that have been made by now, but still, it should be told - just in case.

I have created this tread only to let you know that one is able to play Europe maps in Crusader, and the other way around - to play the old Crusader maps in Europe. I haven't realized this by myself - Lord Vetka had noticed that he can run my Europe maps in Crusader. I never tried playing Europe maps in Crusader before, although I believe that I had tried playing Crusader maps in Europe, and that I had failed. One thing is sure - or I am mistaken, and this was possible from the beginning, or this is possible to do until the latest Stronghold Europe patch by Teutonen Ritter. Anyway, if you do put your Crusader maps in Europe, there will still be one illogical thing - in some maps you will find some cacti or camels... For this reason I am planning to edit those maps so they would look more natural. On top of my list are some favorite maps of mine which were made within my family, and some of those great maps created by Firefly, such as Close Encounters, The River, etc... I expect I am going to be pretty slow in this, but I hope I will adopt at least some of those maps. I will be writing about my progress in this tread. And, one more thing. Now when we know that Europe and Crusader maps can be played in both versions I feel need to thanks Chris again for giving us Stronghold Europe subsection in Downloads Central. Thanks to that we will be able to see which maps were originally created for Europe, and which ones for Crusader; and each map will surely look way better in the version it was made for. Besides that, we still don't know for sure if there might occur some problem while playing an Europe map in Crusader, and vice versa - we do know that it works fine on those several computers we tested it on. Regards!

The map can be downloaded now from our downloads central. :) Follow this link to download the map.

I wouldn't be bad if the five of us were all able to play, but that's OK. :) I hope we could try next weekend as well! Speaking about a map - I wasn't thinking about that one yet. I also don't know for sure if we are playing Crusader or Extreme. We could play one of Vetka's map, I am open to any suggestions. If you have no idea, we could try with The River map, and put the three of us in south-east, and give the AI's 8000 gold. See you on battlefield! :)

So I am making this tread, as I believe we should have one like this for Stronghold Europe as well. This is the new map that came to life thanks to joint work of Duc Vautour's and myself. There will be another map as well, but this the first one that is going to be available at SHN downloads central. I am giving you the minimap, and I am also giving you the panorama of the map. I hope you're gonna like it. Duc Vautour sent me his map called Line in the Sand, which hasn't been submitted to SHN yet, but it will be soon enough. Even though his map hasn't but published yet, this one I made by editing Line in the Sand. I believe this map could be played in singleplayer and multiplayer as well. All AI lords have enough space and enough resources, while none has too much resources, and almost each castle lord that doesn't have any ally out there is going to have had time defending his industry outside of his castle. Any suggestions about the map - what could have been done better, or anything like that - that is all welcome! I am sorry for making double treads for this, but there is no notification displayed at main forums page about when I make a new tread or post in a sub-forum, such as in Stronghold Europe. I am making this one so it could be visible by others.

Thanks, Chris, I'm glad you like it. :) Message edited - I removed some off topic part of the post.

Welcome to the community TemplarMERC! :)

So I am making this tread, as I believe we should have one like this for Stronghold Europe as well. This is the new map that came to life thanks to joint work of Duc Vautour's and myself. There will be another map as well, but this the first one that is going to be available at SHN downloads central. I am giving you the minimap, and I am also giving you the panorama of the map. I hope you're gonna like it. Duc Vautour sent me his map called Line in the Sand, which hasn't been submitted to SHN yet, but it will be soon enough. Even though his map hasn't but published yet, this one I made by editing Line in the Sand. I believe this map could be played in singleplayer and multiplayer as well. All AI lords have enough space and enough resources, while none has too much resources, and almost each castle lord that doesn't have any ally out there is going to have had time defending his industry outside of his castle. Any suggestions about the map - what could have been done better, or anything like that - that is all welcome!

Hey, Mathew! If I got it right, you have no internet access on your computer. In that case, if it is not about your internet provider, it could be that reinstalling network adapter driver could help, unless it's a hardware problem. Still, what confuses me is that you do have access to MSN homepage which does need internet connection, so I might be wrong about this one. :/ To check if it is because of your internet provider, you can try connecting to internet using another device, such as your phone - if you have wireless enabled in your router settings. Now when I wrote it, I see you said you are able to play multiplayer games, and you are able to connect to Skype, so that should indicate I'm wrong... Anyway, I do have no actual idea what might be causing the problem.

That's great to hear! I added you to the list. :)

That's great to hear! If someone else wants to join us, he would be most welcome.

I agree! Even if they don't come back to Stronghold 3, they could use some of it to make one great game!

It seems like we have that same dream... :)

That is great to hear! In that case I do hope that they will be able to patch Stronghold 3 some more to make things better. I believe the only difference between those two is the fact that in Crusader 2 they brought back the grid, and buildings ca be rotated in only four directions like in Stronghold 2.

Too bad to hear that. I believe many others would be playing it as well. Stronghold 3 is indeed a special Stronghold game - just when you look at it, you can see how different it is compared to other Stronghold games. I don't know what are Firefly's plans after Stronghold Crusader 2, but it would be great indeed if they came back to Stronghold 3, just like that went back to Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader to make the HD patches. Unfortunately I do realize it is not so likely that they would come back to Stronghold 3 now; but on the other hand, Stronghold 3 and Stronghold Crusader 2 have similar engines (if I am right?), so it should be easier to them to fix some things in Stronghold 3 after their experiences with Stronghold Crusader 2.

Do you know if we can save the game in multiplayer, and load it if the game crashes? I do know the autosave has been disabled by Firefly, but the host could save the game manually now and then though...

This is a fine review. Sorry I haven't commented anything until now, but I have read the review, and I did consider it before buying the game myself. I only meant to tell few more things. Troops: I also like how they made some troops to have some new abilities. For example, spearmen are in Stronghold 3 called men at arms, and they are able to through their spear. In earlier Stronghold games they are pretty much useless, and that is not the case here. Tutorial: I agree that tutorial tell very little, but one can find out a lot more by playing economic campaign. I believe that Firefly meant to make it this way - the economic campaign is in some way an advanced tutorial as well - with difference that it doesn't tell you what exactly to do. It guides you, while you have to figure some little details by yourself. Would I recommend it: If you are a fan of the Stronghold series, yes. If not, I would tell you try Stronghold Crusader and Stronghold 2 first. If you one liked those two, than there are good chances that you will like Stronghold 3 as well, but you may miss some features. PS: I hope we could try a multiplayer game some day, Mathew. :) If you decide to make a gaming event for Stronghold 3 I would definitely join.

Hey, guys. I can see that very little people write about Stronghold 3, although I do believe it does deserve some more attention. Also, many of them have the opinion that Stronghold 3 is simply a bad game, and since I believe it's not true, I decided to write this review. I have also read the review of Mathew Steel. I agree with his review, and I shall comment there about some things he said, to tell what else I think about the matter.

Sure, you can send it to me on my email.

You can make the in-game screenshot by pressing PRINT SCREEN (while in the game), and than you minimize the game and open Paint, and press CTRL+P to paste the image. Then you save the image. Those who have Steam version could press F12 to make a screenshot. Nevertheless, we do know what Hades terrain, but we wanted to see your map, so we could see something about your problem.

You can do both, although the map provides more information to us. :)

I agree with Chris, feel free to attack the file here, so we could see it by ourselves. :)

No problem. Another guy also joined the room, so we were able to play 2 vs 2 game, and it was quite fun. I hope you will make it to come next time though. :)